(upbeat music) - [Announcer] The American Red Cross founded by Clara Barton was not well known until a famous event in Pennsylvania's history.

Do you know what historical event boosted Clara Barton's Red Cross to national fame?

You're invited to play The Pennsylvania Game.

Test your knowledge of the Commonwealth's people, places and products.

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♪ When it's time to make your mind up ♪ ♪ Make it milk ♪ (upbeat music) Now, let's get the game started.

Here's the host of The Pennsylvania Game, Lynn Hinds.

(audience applauds) - Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, audience.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

(audience applauds) Now, we want all of you in our studio audience and home audience to play along and see if you can get more right than the best scorer on our panel.

We've got some charming questions to go with the charming panel.

And our panelists are Bernie Asbell, an author and a writer.

Bernie Asbell.

(audience applauds) She's a native Pennsylvanian, she's a registered nurse and a hospital administrator, Ann Stetcher.

(audience applauds) And the station manager of WPTT channel 22 in Pittsburgh, Eddie Edwards.

(audience applauds) - Thank you.

(Eddie laughs) - Okay, let's get things started.

The first question's about the Red Cross and its roots here in Pennsylvania.

- [Announcer] Clara Barton's American Red Cross was virtually unknown when it responded to an event that was to make the Red Cross a household word.

What Pennsylvania event launched the Red Cross to national fame?

A, Washington at Valley Forge in 1777, B, the Great Pennsylvania Fire of 1845, C, the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863 or D, the Johnstown Flood of 1889.

- Now, I assure it was one of those four and Bernie Asbell, all you have to do is decide which one.

- Well, I'd know it was the Battle of Gettysburg, but then I know that's Florence Nightingale.

So I'm gonna say the Johnstown Flood.

- [Lynn] You're going to say the Johnstown Flood, that's letter D. And Ann Stetcher, you're making funny faces.

That means what?

- I should know this since I'm a nurse by background and training.

(Lynn laughs) Come on, guys.

Well, I'm just going to be ornery with Bernie and I'm gonna say C. - You're gonna say the Battle of Gettysburg.

That leaves you with one of those two or Valley Forge or the Great Pittsburgh Fire, Eddie Edwards.

Which are you gonna select?

- I tell you, Lynn, I'm going to go with C myself simply because history has taught me that back then, there weren't that many females in battle.

And the only thing that they could do was nurse the wounded soldiers back to health.

- That is true.

So we have a couple of Civil War fans and one Johnstown Flood fan.

Let's see which one's right.

- [Announcer] The answer is D, the Johnstown Flood of 1889.

(audience applauds) On Friday, May 31st at 3:10 in the afternoon, an earthwork dam holding back Lake Conemaugh broke, spilling 20 million tons of water into the valley.

A wall of water 75 feet high and 1/2 mile wide swept down upon Johnstown.

In a matter of minutes, more than 2,000 men, women and children were drowned.

The physical destruction was catastrophic.

(light music) Newspaper reporters rushed to cover one of the biggest stories of the century.

67-year-old Clara Barton had founded the American Red Cross in 1881, but it was not well-known.

Ms. Barton brought some 50 doctors and nurses to aid flood victims.

News reports about their work in Johnstown established a national reputation for the American Red Cross.

(light music) - Bernie, you got that one right.

And that doesn't mean you were one of the writers that covered that story, I'm sure.

- [Ann] Ed and I are leading.

(Eddie laughs) - Wasn't Florence Nightingale in the Civil War?

- Yes.

I'd knock it off, next.

Let's move right along.

(panel laughs) - I was terrified.

- We're gonna see what you know about words you see every day, but do you really see them and can you spell them?

- [Announcer] Everyone knows that Pittsburgh is spelled with an H at the end, but of the following, only one has an H. Which of these names is spelled correctly?

A, Harrisburgh, B, Thornburgh, C. Gettysburgh, D, Susquehannah.

(light music) - [Lynn] Ann Stetcher, how'd you do in spelling in school?

- Don't ask my mother.

- [Lynn] Which of those is right?

- Oh, maybe I'll get one today.

- [Lynn] It's possible.

- Oh, this is awful.

Which one is spelled correctly?

- [Lynn] Yeah, Harrisburgh, Thornburgh, Gettysburgh and Susquehannah, only one has an H at the end, which one?

- God, he's our governor.

I should know that.

- [Lynn] You're gonna say Thornburgh, B, Eddie Edwards?

- [Ann] That's not correct, can I change it?

- No, you've made your commitment, relax.

(Ann laughs) (audience laughs) They're words we see all the time, Eddie.

- I tell you, Lynn, Harrisburgh looks right, Thornburgh looks right, Gettysburgh looks right, Susquehannah looks right.

I think Susquehannah.

- [Lynn] Okay, Mark Twain said, "I have no respect "for any man who can only spell a word one way."

Bernie, what do you think?

- It's good he's not running again because somebody would ask for equal time, but it's Thornburgh.

- [Lynn] You're gonna agree with Ann Stetcher.

- That's right.

- I'm not agreeing with Ann Stetcher, I'm agreeing with Mrs. Thornburgh.

- He wouldn't agree with me if he had to.

- Well, let's see what you agreed with at home.

You may be right.

- [Announcer] The answer is B, Thornburgh, a native of Pittsburgh.

Harrisburg, Gettysburg and Susquehanna have no final H. (light music) - See you've learned something useful, haven't you?

- [Ann] Bernie's reading up.

- Bernie, yeah, he reads what he writes.

Bernie, of course we've talked to before, our author and writer.

Ann Stetcher is a native of Pennsylvania who has come back to Pennsylvania.

Got her start on television with Bozo the Clown, you tell me, Ann.

- No, 60 Minutes really.

(Lynn laughs) - [Lynn] really?

- Uh-huh.

- [Lynn] Is that right?

- I went to Bozo, uh-huh.

- [Lynn] From 60 Minutes to Bozo to The Pennsylvania Game.

- And Good Morning America.

- You're on your way up, I'll tell you that.

(audience laughs) (audience applauds) (panel laughs) - Guys, is that debatable?

- Eddie Edwards is not a Pennsylvania native, but like me-- - [Eddie] You can tell I'm from Cleveland with my answer, right?

- Yeah, you're an adopted Pennsylvanian from near my hometown of Akron, Ohio.

But adopted Pennsylvanians appreciate Pennsylvania as much as I'll tell you natives do.

And you're the station manager at channel 22.

- Station manager, I love this state, I love the people, I love everything about it.

I just have to learn how to spell Thornburgh, you know.

(Eddie laughs) - Yeah, okay.

We're glad to have all of you here and we've got a question next for you that says something about Pennsylvania oil, the finest oil in the world.

- [Announcer] The nation's first oil well was drilled in 1859, not in Texas, but right here in Pennsylvania.

A Connecticut company sent Colonel Edwin L. Drake to Titusville to determine whether oil could be piped out of the ground.

They sent Drake because A, he was a professor of geology, B, he had experience drilling water wells, C, his military rank gave him needed prestige or D, he was an ex-railroad conductor and had a free pass?

- Those are kind of funny answers, Eddie Edwards.

Which one sounds right to you?

- Holy smokes, I've gotta get one right.

This is terrible.

Oh my God.

- [Lynn] Professor, a driller, a colonel or an ex-railroad conductor, which do you pick?

- You were wrong before.

- [Ann] I was right the last time.

- Yeah, you were right, but you gave me the wrong answer.

No, just kidding.

I'm going to go with D, audience.

(Eddie laughs) (audience laughs) - [Lynn] D, did you say?

- I'm going to go with D. - You think he was an ex-railroad conductor and had a free pass.

That's a charming choice, Bernie Asbell?

- Well, I have lived in Connecticut and finding water there is even harder than finding oil in Pennsylvania.

I'll go with B.

- That's where he came from, so maybe he was a water grower.

I don't know, Ann Stetcher, what do you think?

- I have absolutely no reason to do this at all, except I believe that I think he was into water.

- [Lynn] And knew how to drill?

- Yeah.

- I believe you're all gonna be a little surprised by the answer, some of you anyway.

Let's listen.

- [Announcer] The answer is D. He was an ex-railroad conductor and had a free pass.

Drake was not working at the time, owned stock in the company, but above all, he could get to Titusville free.

Drake had no drilling experience, so he hired Uncle Billy Smith to do the drilling.

Although the 38-year-old Drake had no military experience, the company simply called him colonel to give him added prestige.

Drake struck oil on August 27, 1859 at a depth of 70 feet and the oil industry was born.

The original derrick burned down, but you can see this replica at the Drake Oil Well Museum in Venango County near Titusville.

- And it's worth visiting.

It really is the finest oil, Pennsylvania oil.

Not only first, but the finest really in the whole world.

The quality of oil, they use it for oiling sewing machines and that kind of stuff, it's such good quality oil.

Close race, hope you're doing better at home.

Bernie has two, Ann one and Eddie one.

Let's hear it for our whole panel.

They're all doing a good job.

(audience applauds) Now, another little feature that sometimes gives the panel trouble is our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

Panel, you're gonna write under number one here who you think the Mystery Pennsylvanian is on clue number one.

There'll be two more clues as we go along.

First clue is, the son of Italian immigrant parents, our Mystery Pennsylvanian grew up in Allentown, Pennsylvania.

He almost went into the food business, but instead became famous in another kind of business.

Who is the Mystery Pennsylvanian?

Jot your answer, panel, and at home.

Grew up in Allentown, Pennsylvania, the son of Italian immigrant parents, almost went into the food business, but instead went into another business.

So you think about that.

And while you're thinking, let's see what you know about the size of Pennsylvania and more particularly about how large the population is compared with some other states.

Might surprise you.

- [Announcer] According to the latest census taken in 1980, Pennsylvania has more than 11 million people.

Only three states have a larger population.

Which of these states has a smaller population than Pennsylvania?

A, Texas, B, New York, C, California or D, Illinois.

(light music) - Okay, it's a perfectly simple question.

Bernie Asbell, back to you, which state?

- Well, the biggest state on the mainland can't be as populous as Pennsylvania.

- [Lynn] A lot of land and not many people, Texas.

- Yeah.

- [Lynn] Ann Stetcher?

- This is almost like the elk question we had in our practice run.

I think I'll go with Texas 'cause they got a lot of cows.

- [Lynn] They got a lot of cows in Texas and not so many people, you think.

- A lot of oil wells.

(Ann laughs) - [Lynn] Eddie Edwards?

- I hope I can keep going here on my streak.

I'm going to go along with A, Texas.

One, because my two colleagues here have put up A and Texas is a big state, I like Texas.

- Yeah, I like Texas, too, but New York and California and Illinois are also three very fine states.

What is the right answer?

- [Announcer] The answer is D, Illinois.

California has 23 million people, New York 17 million and Texas 14 million.

Pennsylvania beats Illinois by just 448,267 people.

(light music) - Okay, so Illinois is behind us by about 1/2 million.

Texas has more people than we do.

See, they got a land and you don't have to be so crowded to have more people altogether.

- [Bernie] The census could be wrong, you know.

- It could be.

It could be, but I think I'll go with the census instead of you three 'cause you were all wrong, which proves that unanimity is not the best thing in the world, is it?

Okay, sports question next and our panel are all such good sports, they're sure to know this one, I think.

- [Announcer] Pennsylvania's most famous college football rivalry is of course Pitt versus Penn State.

The two schools have met 82 times and the game usually generates tremendous interest throughout the Commonwealth.

However, the nation's most played rivalry while lesser known also involves two Pennsylvania schools.

Is that rivalry, A, Albright versus Lebanon Valley, B, Lafayette versus Lehigh, C, Clarion versus Indiana of Pennsylvania or D, Lock Haven versus Widener?

(light music) - Kind of interesting I think that the oldest sports rivalry in the whole nation is in Pennsylvania and if you know which one, you're in good stead here.

- [Ann] Don't look at me like that.

- I believe it's time to start with, isn't it?

- You got it, Ace.

(Lynn laughs) - [Lynn] Well, let's have an answer.

Which one is it?

- I think the boys, it's B.

- [Lynn] B is Lafayette, Lehigh you think.

Okay, Eddie Edwards, do you think-- - Can I call my son up here and... (Eddie laughs) I'll go with B, Lafayette versus Lehigh.

- Okay, are we gonna have unanimity again?

- I'm afraid we are.

I believe that's it.

- [Lynn] You all think Lafayette, Lehigh?

- [Ann] Yeah.

- Uh-huh.

- That's a good guess.

- Uh-huh, well, last time, you were all in agreement and you were all wrong.

Let's see what this time is like.

- [Announcer] The correct answer is B.

No two teams have played each other as often as Lafayette and Lehigh.

(audience applauds) They're shown here in their 1984 game with Lehigh wearing all white.

This game was their 120th meeting.

And Lafayette's upset victory gave them a 66 to 49 edge with five ties.

They first played in 1884 and have met every year since with the exception of 1896.

Many years, they played two games and they even played three times in 1891 with Lehigh winning all three games.

Lafayette and Lehigh, the nation's most played college football rivalry.

(upbeat music) - That's a good question, yeah.

And those were good answers, too.

Everybody has one more right than the last time we checked.

Bernie is slightly in the lead with three, but you're all doing real well.

Okay, let's hear it for our panelists.

(audience applauds) Let's see if any more looks of enlightenment dawn on the faces of our panel because Mystery Pennsylvanian clue number two.

His rise to the top of his company was steady and swift.

His fall was sudden.

He moved to a nearby opportunity and rose to the top once more.

Who is this Mystery Pennsylvanian?

His rise to the top of his company was steady and swift, his fall was sudden, he moved to a nearby opportunity and rose to the top once more.

By the way, if you wanna write to us for any reason or especially to suggest a question for The Pennsylvania Game, here is our address.

Simply write to Pennsylvania Game, Wagner Annex, University Park, 16802.

We'd be glad to give you credit for the questions that you suggest to us when we use your question on the air.

We've heard from a lot of you already and we're working on those questions and getting the visuals ready.

So you keep writing to us.

And if you just like The Pennsylvania Game, wanna write and say, hey, keep it coming, we appreciate hearing from all of you.

That's the address.

Well, the next question is about a bureaucracy, the Pennsylvania government.

And one way to figure out how big it is is to compare it with that of the federal government.

- [Announcer] The federal government of the United States has 17 cabinet members appointed by the President.

Pennsylvania has how many cabinet members appointed by the governor?

A, 17, the same as the federal, B, 16, one less than the federal, C, 18, one more than the federal or D, 9, about half the federal.

(light music) - Tests are such fun when you know the answers.

Eddie Edwards, are you having any fun on this one?

- Oh God, I have no idea.

This is really going to be a wild guess.

- [Lynn] I've taken many tests on that basis, Eddie.

Don't worry about it.

(Lynn laughs) - E?

(Eddie laughs) - [Lynn] E, none of the above, huh?

- Oh my, I am... And I report so much on government issues, isn't that something?

I am going to go with A.

- The same as the federal government.

- The same as the federal government.

- Okay, Bernie, we're up to you.

- I'm gonna go with D and I don't know why.

- [Lynn] Well, the federal government is so big, half sounds reasonable, doesn't it?

- Well, that was my thinking.

- Yeah, good thinking, Bernie.

Ann, what's your thought process?

- Since we were all wrong on population before, it made no sense, but I think D. And again, I have no rationale for this at all.

- So two of you think about half the number of appointed cabinet offices as the federal government and you think it's the same as the federal government.

What do the rest of you think?

Studio audience, you think they're right or they're wrong and how about you at home?

Well, the answer might surprise you, who knows.

- [Announcer] The answer is C, one more than the federal government.

The 18 different departments employ about 84,000 people.

(light music) - Now, I really don't mean that to be a commentary on state government, but we do have one more cabinet office than the United States government.

Does that tell you anything?

- We're only here to make the audience feel smart.

Somebody out there got that right answer.

- [Eddie] I was closer.

(panelists laugh) (audience laughs) - That's right, let's hear it for Eddie.

(audience applauds) You were seven closer as a matter of fact.

In horseshoes and hand grenades, close count, but not in The Pennsylvania Game.

He'll know the answer to this next one.

It's about an airline that didn't exist and does exist and listen.

- [Announcer] In 1978, air passengers were asked to give their opinion of various airlines, including one that did not exist.

Which of these airlines on the list did not exist?

A, National, B, Allegheny, C, US Air, D, Continental.

- Wow, I don't remember the right answer to this one myself.

Bernie, what-- - Am I allowed to ask this, what year did they say that was?

- [Lynn] '78, I believe they said.

- 1978.

- [Lynn] '78 or '79, '78 was it?

Yeah, '78.

- My answer is C, US Air.

- You think US Air did not exist in 1978.

- I'm gonna say that.

- Okay, Ann Stetcher?

- Well, B, Agony Airlines became US Air, didn't it?

- Well, I don't know.

I'm not playing this game.

You think C, okay.

We have two-thirds toward unanimity.

- Don't worry, I remember the advertising campaign and Allegheny Airlines did become US Air, it's C. - Are you sure about that?

- Yes.

- Positive.

- You're absolutely certain?

- Positive.

- You gonna go along with that kind of certainty?

- [Bernie] I take strength from you, Eddie.

(Lynn laughs) (Eddie laughs) - Let's see how strong he is.

- [Announcer] The answer is C, US Air.

When the airlines were deregulated in 1978, Allegheny Airlines with most of their flights radiating out of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania expanded.

They thought the name Allegheny sound too regional, so they tested for a new name.

When more people said they preferred US Air than Allegheny, they changed their name.

The new name, US Air, reflected the original name of the company founded in 1939 as All American Aviation.

(light music) - How'd we stop that plane in midair like that?

That is amazing to me.

Now, you all did so well on the number of cabinets in Pennsylvania, the political question, that we decided we would give you a second chance at another political type question, listen.

- [Announcer] Pennsylvania's governor and lieutenant governor are elected statewide.

Three other offices are also elected statewide.

Which of these offices is not so elected?

A, State Treasurer, B, Attorney General, C, Secretary of the Commonwealth or D, Auditor General.

(light music) - Okay, you all missed the first one, so you have a chance to redeem yourself.

Eddie, you first.

- Have you ever seen a poster with a promotion, elect me Secretary of the Commonwealth?

Secretary of the Commonwealth.

- [Lynn] I've never seen that, but I've never seen a poster for the others either.

Bernie Asbell, what do you say, which one?

- I was gonna say D. Eddie's argument was just so overwhelming.

- [Lynn] He convinced you and you changed your mind.

(audience laughs) - I just switched, thanks, Eddie.

- You must have trouble sitting near people in tests, Ann?

- I know this.

- [Lynn] Do you?

- Yeah.

- [Lynn] You're all in agreement again?

- There are some things I do know.

I knew the last one and this one, give me a break.

- You guys are either all right or we're gonna have to get some harder questions.

That's all I got-- - [Ann] I think it's sexist.

- What did you pick at home?

- [Announcer] The answer is C, Secretary of the Commonwealth.

That office is appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Senate.

A state constitution change in 1978 made the Attorney General an elected office, joining the offices of State Treasurer and Auditor General.

(light music) - Well, it's a little poetic justice.

They all missed the first one, they all got the second right.

And it's a close game.

Bernie has five, Ann and Eddie have four.

Very, very close.

Let's hear it for our panel.

They're really doing a super job.

(audience applauds) Course, you know they add them all together and claim 13, don't you, all together, but that's good.

These are really tough questions and some of them you just have to guess at.

Mystery Pennsylvanian clue number three.

I want you to write down right away on line three if you know the answer.

His face is known to everyone who watches television.

His autobiography is a bestseller and many think he should run for president.

That's the third clue for our Mystery Pennsylvanian.

His face known to everybody who watches television, his autobiography is a bestseller and many think he should run for president.

And Eddie, we're gonna, it's your turn, give you the honor of revealing the answers that you are scribbling down even now first.

- I hope I spelled his name, Lee Iacocca?

- Okay, it's a tough name to spell if that's the right answer.

- Is that how you spell Iacocca?

- [Lynn] Okay, and on the second clue, Bernie said Lee Iacocca and put ditto marks into the third one.

Ann, you put?

- [Ann] I'm on a first name basis.

- [Lynn] You're on a first name basis with Lee Iacocca.

You all agree again.

- Would this be a conflict of interest, do you think this time with Lee?

- Oh, I don't know.

I have no idea.

But you all, sometimes when they all three in agreement, you're all right and sometimes you're all... - [Ann] We're right.

- [Eddie] Hey, we're on a roll here.

- He toppled fast and then rose slowly again.

- [Lynn] So the clues fit, you think?

- Clues fit.

- And he went to school and he was from Allentown.

- Who knows, let's see and see who's right.

- America can't cut the mustard anymore.

That quality counts for nothing and hard work for even less.

And commitment, that went out with the hula hoop.

Well, when you've been kicked in the head like we have, you learn pretty quick-- - [Announcer] Today, Lee Iacocca is one of the best known people in America due in part to his bestselling autobiography and to his appearance in television commercials.

He is also Chairman of the Statue of Liberty Ellis Island Centennial Commission.

Lee Iacocca was born in Allentown, Pennsylvania on October 15, 1924, the son of Italian immigrant parents.

He attended Lehigh University in nearby Bethlehem, graduating with a major in business and engineering.

His first job after college was with the Ford Motor Company.

Starting in Eastern Pennsylvania, Lee Iacocca worked his way to Detroit and to the top.

By the time he was 36 years old, he was general manager of the biggest division of the world's second largest company.

By the time he was 46, he was president of Ford.

But after eight years as president and 32 years with the company, he was fired.

Out of the trauma of that experience, he moved to nearly bankrupt Chrysler Corporation and soon put Chrysler back on its feet.

- Quality, hard work, commitment, the stuff America was made of-- - [Announcer] Lee Iacocca, a famous Pennsylvanian.

- I have one and only one ambition for Chrysler, to be the best.

What else is there?

- I give up.

I wonder how many people knew he was a native Pennsylvanian.

Did you all know in the studio audience that he was a native Pennsylvanian?

Did you, okay.

- You know, if he had hung around, we had a question a couple of weeks ago that said we once had 40 automobile companies in Pennsylvania.

He could've had his whole choice of all those companies.

Who knows who might have become great.

- Eddie had lunch with him.

- I had lunch with him and I knew that.

- Who paid?

- He did.

(panel laughs) (audience laughs) He did.

- [Bernie] It's only fair.

- They asked him I think they said we'd like you to do your own commercials.

And he got up from behind his desk and said, "Why should I do my commercials?

"I'm not very articulate.

"Do you really think I can do commercials?"

'Cause he does a great job.

I mean, for a corporate executive, he does an excellent job.

Yeah, a neat man, Lee Iacocca.

They think he should run for president as a Democrat.

The fact that he's a registered Republican doesn't seem to bother anyone.

- Doesn't bother a lot of other people.

- I guess it doesn't.

But a famous Pennsylvanian, Mr. Lee Iacocca.

- And have you noticed a number of corporate executives who now do their own commercials as a result of what he did?

- Well, we learned how to spell, we learned about oil, we learned about the Red Cross, we learned about how big Pennsylvania is and how many cabinet officers we have and about another famous Pennsylvanian.

And we hope you'll all join us next time when we all gather once more to play The Pennsylvania Game.

We'll see you then.

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